"The second you try to be somebody else, your leadership weakens." - Marcy Stoudt Pause for 10-15 seconds before an interaction or decision and ask: Who do I want to be in this moment? Not just...What should I say? What should I do? But...How do I want to show up? Clear? Supportive? Direct? Patient? Answering this question can change the tone of an entire interaction. therevelcompanies.com

Guest: Georgia Groc | AI Automation & Process Transformation Leader, U.S. Bank In this Above Center® episode, Georgia Groc shares a grounded, real-world view of what leadership looks like when the pace of change is relentless and the stakes feel personal. As an AI Automation and Process Transformation leader at U.S. Bank, Georgia makes the case that leaders don’t need to be experts overnight, but they do need to get in the arena. Her advice is simple and powerful: block time to learn, start experimenting, and let AI handle the “nonsense work” so people can double down on what makes them uniquely valuable. But the conversation goes deeper than technology. Georgia connects the fear many professionals feel about AI to a fear she knows intimately: a stage 3 breast cancer diagnosis at 36. What helped her move forward wasn’t pretending the fear wasn’t there. It was getting informed, building clarity, and choosing a mindset that refused to let a hard season become her identity. The result is a leadership posture that is both resilient and human: acknowledge what’s real, learn what we can, and keep choosing the path that aligns with our best self. Key Takeaways from Georgia’s Leadership Philosophy 🧠 Don’t Wait to “Be Ready” for AI Georgia believes the biggest risk is not starting. Leaders don’t need massive budgets or advanced expertise; they need intentional practice. An hour a week of learning and tinkering builds fluency, confidence, and momentum. 🧩 AI Raises the Bar on Human Value As AI accelerates execution, Georgia encourages teams to focus on what can’t be automated: judgment, vision, relationship-building, creative problem solving, and leadership presence. Let AI do the repetitive work so people can lead at a higher level. 🤝 Psychological Safety Is the New Adoption Strategy AI adoption isn’t just a tool rollout—it’s a culture shift. Georgia emphasizes creating a team environment where people can voice skepticism, fears, and frustrations without shame. Real progress happens when leaders “double-click” on what’s underneath the resistance. 🧭 Knowledge Reduces Fear From navigating AI uncertainty to navigating cancer, Georgia returns to one theme: information is empowering. When people understand what they’re facing, fear quiets down enough for clear action to emerge. 🔥 Choose Your Life—Daily Georgia’s resilience is rooted in choice. When life feels fragile, clarity sharpens. Her approach is to go all-in on what matters: family, impact, career, and presence. Choosing above center is not denial of hardship; it’s ownership of response. 💬 Favorite Quote “What a day, what a life!” For Georgia, this quote is a reset. The day might be hard, messy, or exhausting, but the larger story is still worth celebrating. It’s a reminder to hold both truths at once: reality can be heavy—and life can still be beautiful. About Georgia Groc Georgia Groc is an AI Automation and Process Transformation leader who turns complex problems into scalable solutions. Over the past decade, she has helped highly regulated financial organizations reimagine how work gets done—delivering millions in cost savings and revenue, accelerating operational efficiency, and empowering teams to do their best work. Today, Georgia leads an AI Automation Solutions Team at U.S. Bank, managing a team of eight and overseeing high-visibility AI and automation use cases across Operations for Consumer, Business and Treasury, Wealth Management, Contact Center, and Transaction Processing & Shared Services. She was promoted into this role for her ability to learn new business areas quickly, build frameworks that increase efficiency, and activate cross-functional teams around a compelling vision. Her leadership style is rooted in transparency, accountability, and building strong team culture. ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey.

We’re often the biggest obstacle in our own way. When doubt shows up, it’s worth pausing and asking whether the story you’re telling yourself is actually true. A powerful reminder from Marcy on why mindset matters more than we think. Catch Marcy on the Past the Pitch Podcast with @Anna Frazzetto: 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NHVFEEV6cwmhs0tmxcuca?si=739438331b5249a5 ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LW8YuA-O4

Growth doesn’t start with fixing the problem. It starts with asking better questions. Curiosity creates understanding. Without it, we risk repeating the same patterns over and over. Catch Marcy on the Past the Pitch Podcast with @Anna Frazzetto: 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NHVFEEV6cwmhs0tmxcuca?si=739438331b5249a5 ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LW8YuA-O4

Busy doesn’t always mean productive. When teams operate from urgency and pressure, decision-making suffers. Leading from inspiration creates better outcomes for people and the business. Catch Marcy on the Past the Pitch Podcast with @Anna Frazzetto: 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NHVFEEV6cwmhs0tmxcuca?si=739438331b5249a5 ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LW8YuA-O4

Reminder of the day!!! Leadership gets lighter when you stop trying to be everything to everyone. Learn what happens when you’re clear on who you are and lead from that place (hint: interactions become far less draining, among other positive side-effects!!). Catch Marcy’s leadership conversation with Jeremy Greene on Birds of a Feather: ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqRKnmdxO4

The way we show up with the people around us often matters more than the agenda, the meeting, or the outcome. Strong relationships turn “everyday work” into something that actually feels worthwhile. Catch Marcy on Birds of a Feather with Jeremy Greene: ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqRKnmdxO4

We often assume stress comes from our roles, responsibilities, or circumstances. But many times, it’s the stories we carry into those moments that create the pressure. Change the narrative, and you can change the experience. Huge thank you to John Kaplan and the Revenue Builders Podcast for making this conversation happen. Catch Marcy on Birds of a Feather with Jeremy Greene: ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqRKnmdxO4

Ever walked out of a meeting thinking, “What just happened?” Kirsten Moorefield shares how Cloverleaf helped her decode a tense moment with her head of sales, and how fast everything shifted once she understood his stress style. 👉 Try Cloverleaf free on us: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/cloverleaf Check out the full podcast wherever you listen! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

We’re living in a moment of tension: economic pressure, workforce fear, and an expectation to adapt faster than ever. In this Above Center® conversation, Kirsten Moorefield makes something clear: AI isn’t here to cut people. It’s here to expand what people are capable of. More clarity. More speed. More trust. That’s the vision behind Cloverleaf and the same belief fueling our AI Career Strategist work. If you know a senior leader looking for their next big opportunity, we’ve built a program just for them. Check out our new Career Strategist program: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/leaders-in-transition-revel-career-strategist This is a modern, AI-accelerated program that helps leaders gain real AI fluency and create a personal GPT so you’re not just reacting to change, but actively inventing what comes next. We’d love your referrals.

Kirsten Moorefield’s episode just went live, and this clip captures the heart of it: Stress twists the story. Cloverleaf brings leaders back to clarity. Remember, if you want to try Cloverleaf (and we think you will after giving this episode a listen!!), you can try it on us: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/cloverleaf Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Guest: Kirsten Moorefield | Co-Founder & Chief Strategy Officer, Cloverleaf In this ABOVE CENTER® episode, Kirsten Moorefield shares how she went from a first-time manager drowning in self-doubt to co-creating one of the most powerful psychology-based coaching tools in the workplace: Cloverleaf. With deep empathy and bold vision, Kirsten takes us inside the messy, human reality of leading in high-growth environments—and how AI can become an unlikely but powerful ally in fostering emotional intelligence, trust, and performance. Kirsten’s story is a testament to what happens when you stop labeling people and start seeing them. She believes thriving teams don’t just need better tools—they need better understanding. Key Takeaways from Kirsten’s Leadership Philosophy 🧭 Stress Is a Signal, Not a Setback For Kirsten, stress isn’t failure—it’s information. When tension arises, it’s often a cue to pause, reflect, and recalibrate—not power through. 🧠 AI Can Deepen Human Connection While others feared AI, Kirsten saw its potential to support—not replace—people. Cloverleaf uses psychology and automation to give teams real-time coaching tips that foster awareness and reduce friction. 💬 Communication Needs Context Her breakthrough? Conflict often isn’t about competence—it’s about clashing styles. Tools like Cloverleaf help leaders understand not just what happened, but why someone reacted a certain way—and how to respond with clarity and care. 🔁 Rupture and Repair Builds Trust Kirsten’s guiding quote—“All trust is built through rupture and repair”—reminds us that tension isn’t the enemy of strong teams. Avoiding conflict kills momentum; facing it with empathy fuels growth. 📊 Data-Driven, Human-Centered Cloverleaf analyzes over 214 personality traits across multiple assessments, making it nearly impossible to box someone in. The result? Less labeling, more listening—and better performance across diverse teams. 🤝 Above Center Starts With You Whether she’s noticing a pattern of defensiveness or guiding a stressed-out team through a product launch, Kirsten uses Cloverleaf herself. The goal? To lead by example—embracing self-awareness as a daily practice, not just a leadership buzzword. 💬 Favorite Quote “All trust is built through rupture and repair.” This psychology insight grounds Kirsten’s approach to leadership. Conflict isn’t a sign of failure—it’s an invitation to build something stronger. Real trust isn’t built through comfort. It’s built through courage. About Kirsten Moorefield: Kirsten Moorefield is the Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer at Cloverleaf, a technology company pioneering Automated Coaching™ to help teams thrive. Launched in 2018, Cloverleaf now delivers over 5 million coaching insights per month to more than 45,000 teams. With a background in leadership, psychology, and people-first innovation, Kirsten leads with both vision and vulnerability—empowering organizations to turn human differences into team strengths. Her mission? To make self-awareness, empathy, and high performance a normal part of every workday. ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.therevelcompanies.com/above-center https://cloverleaf.me/

Of course you have New Year’s resolutions…we all do. But as neuroscientist Jamey Maniscalco reminds us, trying to become a “new person” overnight is the fastest way to burn out and slip even further from where you want to be. If you missed his episode on the ABOVE CENTER® Leadership Podcast, now’s the perfect time to tune in and learn how to make your New Year goals actually stick (backed by science!!). Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Guest: Warner Siebert | Entrepreneur, Sales Leader, Advisor In this Above Center® conversation, Warner Siebert brings hard-earned wisdom from the trenches of entrepreneurship, tech startups, and high-performance sales teams. With a career spanning food & beverage, wellness, and SaaS, Warner shares his story with humor, honesty, and a deep belief in the power of simplicity. From building venture-backed companies to leading national sales teams, Warner’s approach is grounded in clarity: know your must-haves, scale through delegation, and never underestimate the power of picking up the phone. This episode is packed with practical advice for anyone looking to lead with purpose—and stay above center when the pressure’s on. ________________________________________ Key Takeaways from Warner’s Approach to Leadership & Growth 📈 Sales Is a Crash Course in Confidence Warner began his career with a phonebook and a commission-only job at a rock radio station. That first sales meeting? He froze and walked out. But those early no’s built his grit—and shaped how he leads others through fear and failure today. 📚 Leadership Is Clarity + Empowerment Great leaders set a clear direction, communicate expectations, and then get out of the way. Warner learned that scaling isn’t about doing more—it’s about hiring great people, delegating well, and aligning on what success looks like. 💬 Storytelling Builds Trust As a mentor and team leader, Warner uses storytelling to show he’s been there too. From botched pitches to tough transitions, his stories aren’t just lessons—they’re bridges of empathy that help others grow without fear. 📊 Data + Gut = Smart Decisions Whether hiring, launching, or investing, Warner blends analytics with instinct. He believes in stress-testing hires with small projects and looking beyond résumés to see how people think, communicate, and recover from setbacks. 📞 Pick Up the Phone In a world of automation and inbox overload, Warner reminds us that connection builds momentum. Sometimes, the next deal, breakthrough, or relationship is just one phone call away. 🧭 Fear Is Paper-Thin Warner’s philosophy on fear? It only feels like a brick wall. Push through, ask for help, try again. Whether mentoring young founders or guiding his kids through Lego frustrations, Warner shows that resilience is a muscle we all can build. 💬 Favorite Quote “Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.” – Zhu Xi This quote from a Chinese philosopher—discovered during Warner’s senior thesis—guides how he leads, lives, and prioritizes. It’s his weekly gut check: Is this a must-have or a nice-to-have? About Warner Siebert Warner Siebert is a seasoned entrepreneur, advisor, and sales executive known for his ability to scale revenue, simplify systems, and build high-performing teams. He’s the former Co-Founder & CEO of Good Day (CBD wellness), former SVP at Sysco LABS, and founder of multiple startups, including BuzzTable (acquired by Sysco). Warner brings a unique blend of creative hustle, operational rigor, and human-centered leadership to every venture. He’s currently Chief Revenue Officer at ColdTrack, a direct-to-consumer perishable logistics company. When he’s not building businesses, Warner’s playing club lacrosse, cycling, or parenting twin boys. His personal mantra? Try again—or ask for help. ________________________________________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.therevelcompanies.com/above-center https://www.revelcoach.com/ https://www.therevelcompanies.com/

45,000 teams later, the truth is clear: #AI is becoming one of the most powerful tools for human connection. Hear how on the Above Center® Leadership podcast with @Kirsten Moorefield. 🎙️ Episode drops the first Wednesday in January. Stay tuned and catch other great guests in the meantime: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Pushing through fear is powerful. Asking for help while you do it? Even more so. This clip from our new episode with Warner Siebert is your reminder that courage and support go hand in hand. Listen/watch wherever you get your podcasts. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

In this week’s episode, entrepreneur and sales leader Warner Siebert shares the best advice he ever got from a business book: Spend one year in sales. Any kind of sales. It will change every part of your career. His take? Sales forces you to face fear, build confidence, and learn how to connect. All skills every great leader needs. 🎙️ Episode drops Wednesday. Stay tuned. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Guest: Jamey Maniscalco, PhD | Neuroscientist, Coach, Founder of Manifest Wellness In this Above Center® episode, Jamey Maniscalco brings clarity, compassion, and brain science to the conversation around wellness and personal growth. As a neuroscientist, former professor, and cancer survivor, Jamey’s perspective is grounded in research and lived experience. His approach? Wellness isn’t the goal—it’s the tool to help you live a purpose-driven, energized life. From navigating personal health crises to launching a business that makes wellness accessible, Jamey offers a fresh take on how high performers can thrive—without burning out. He blends practicality with neuroscience, showing us that you don’t need a total life overhaul to see real change. Key Takeaways from Jamey’s Approach to Living Above Center® 🧠 Start With the Brain Jamey believes peak performance and emotional resilience begin in the brain. Sleep, food, movement, and mindfulness aren’t just “nice-to-haves”—they’re essential for cognitive clarity, emotional regulation, and decision-making. 💡 Your Why Drives Your Wellness Forget external motivators. Whether your goal is to be a present parent or a high-impact leader, Jamey encourages clients to anchor behavior change in intrinsic purpose. When wellness supports what truly matters to you, it becomes sustainable. ⏳ The Knowing-Doing Gap Is Real We know what to do—eat better, sleep more, move daily—but the hard part is doing it. Jamey helps close that gap by making change bite-sized, frictionless, and science-backed. 📈 The Difference Between 0 and 1 Is Huge If you can’t get in a 60-minute workout, do air squats between meetings. Can’t meditate for 10 minutes? Try two. Jamey reminds us that doing something—however small—is far better than doing nothing. 🌊 You’re Swimming Upstream In a fast, overstimulated world, intentional living requires effort. Jamey describes wellness as a daily rebellion against distractions, urgency, and burnout. Success, he says, is about choosing direction over default. 🧘 Practice in Peace, Use in Chaos His coaching and mindfulness cards promote “practice before pressure.” Whether it’s naming emotions (“Name it to Tame it”) or calming your nervous system with a physiological sigh, the goal is to build resilience before you need it. 💬 Favorite Quote: “The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson For Jamey, this quote fuels bold decisions—including his leap from tenured academia to entrepreneurship. It’s a reminder that growth is intentional, not accidental. About Jamey Maniscalco Dr. Jamey Maniscalco is the founder of Manifest Wellness, a neuroscience-informed coaching and wellness company. With a PhD in Neuroscience, experience in academia and consulting, and a deeply personal health journey, he empowers individuals and organizations to unlock clarity, energy, and resilience. His latest innovation: a brain-boosting coffee enhancer paired with 2-minute mindfulness cards—making wellness more accessible, one sip at a time. Jamey’s mission is simple: help people do less, better, and build the life they truly want. _________________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.therevelcompanies.com/above-center https://manifestwellness.co/

One key takeaway from our conversation with neuroscientist Jamey Maniscalco? Your brain is everything 🧠. From the downsides of over-caffeinating and under-sleeping to the small, science-backed shifts that help you show up better in every area of your life, this episode is packed with practical change you can actually use. Episode drops Wednesday! You’re not going to want to miss this one. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

The holidays are full of hustle at work and at home. Former Navy SEAL Commander Jon Macaskill shares on the ABOVE CENTER® podcast why it’s not always about pushing harder…and his #1 tip for managing stress when life gets chaotic. Check out the episode: Youtube: https://youtu.be/X5y1EUhycv0 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/from-seal-grit-to-mindful-leadership-with-jon-macaskill/id1557113848?i=1000736381354 Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F/episode/34QdTcViLiN5bMqD4M1ASF/wizard

A conversation on grind culture, growth, and getting grounded with Retired Navy SEAL Commander, Mindfulness Teacher, and Leadership Coach Jon Macaskill. In this Above Center® conversation, retired Navy SEAL Commander Jon Macaskill brings a powerful blend of grit and grace to the conversation on leadership. Drawing from his experience in elite military service and now as a leadership coach and mindfulness teacher, Jon shares practical tools for navigating pressure with clarity, composure, and compassion. From combat missions to boardrooms, Jon teaches that true leadership starts within. Grounded in faith and forged through adversity, his approach combines mental toughness with emotional intelligence—helping others manage stress, lead with integrity, and stay connected to their why. Key Takeaways from Jon’s Leadership Philosophy 1. Mental Toughness Starts Early Jon credits his high school track coach for instilling grit and resilience long before SEAL training. That foundation—built on discipline, consistency, and accountability—shaped how he approached stress and setbacks throughout his life. 2. Know Your Why (Big and Small) Staying “above center” requires a clear purpose. Jon believes leaders need both a broader mission and day-to-day motivation. Whether pushing through cold water in SEAL training or leading a team through chaos, it’s your “why” that keeps you focused. 3. Sleep Is the First Strategy Jon doesn’t believe in reducing stress—he believes in managing it. And it starts with sleep. As a father of three and former SEAL, he’s seen firsthand how rest impacts patience, clarity, and emotional regulation. Rest isn’t weakness—it’s readiness. 4. Busy ≠ Productive Grind culture isn’t a badge of honor. Jon challenges leaders to unplug, slow down, and prioritize presence over productivity. He introduces tools like “to-don’t lists” and 20-minute focus blocks to retrain the brain toward mindfulness. 5. Presence Is More Powerful Than Perfection Whether on the battlefield, in a classroom, or at the dinner table—Jon believes leadership is about showing up fully. You don’t need perfect conditions. You need presence, resourcefulness, and the courage to start. 6. Start Small With Mindfulness Jon teaches that meditation doesn’t require silence, incense, or long hours. Start with two minutes. Sit still. Be with your thoughts. Consistency, not complexity, builds clarity. 7. Lead with Awareness and Action From pulling teeth in Nepal to managing morning chaos with his kids, Jon shows that leadership isn’t about titles—it’s about how you show up in the hard moments. His mindset? Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Favorite Quote “Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.” – Theodore Roosevelt This quote grounds Jon through life’s transitions—combat, career change, even divorce—and reminds him that leadership is about movement, not perfection. ____________________ Jon Macaskill is a retired Navy SEAL Commander turned mindfulness teacher, leadership coach, and resilience practitioner. He blends elite military experience with deep emotional intelligence to help leaders manage stress, sharpen clarity, and lead with heart. Through keynotes, workshops, and 1:1 coaching, Jon works with top-performing teams at companies like Amazon, Microsoft, and PepsiCo. He’s also the co-host of Men Talking Mindfulness, a podcast on showing up fully—especially when it’s hard. His mission? To help leaders integrate grit and compassion in service of something greater. ___________________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://jonmacaskill.com/ https://www.therevelcompanies.com/ http://revelcoach.com/ Theme: Mental Toughness, Presence, and Purpose-Driven Leadership

If your culture runs on pressure, it will always drain your people. If it runs on purpose, it will multiply their impact. This clip from last month’s REVEL® Leadership Circle explores what it means to lead with emotional intelligence. Learn more + gain access here: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/cloverleaf

Guest: Kyle Dorsey, President, Baptist Medical Center South In this Above Center® conversation, hospital president Kyle Dorsey shares his powerful insights on leading through complexity, nurturing a values-driven culture, and building trust with both patients and teams. As President of Baptist Medical Center South—one of the top 5 hospitals in Florida—Kyle knows firsthand what it means to lead with clarity and care under pressure. From staffing shortages to emotionally charged environments, healthcare leadership demands resilience and relational intelligence. Kyle leads by example, modeling the belief that everyone on the team is a care provider—from surgeons to housekeepers. And when the stakes are high, he believes it's not just about what you do, but how you make people feel. Key Takeaways from Kyle’s Leadership Philosophy 🎯 Trust and Communication Are Everything Kyle emphasizes that every interaction in healthcare hinges on trust—between leaders, teams, and patients. Communication is critical, especially when expectations are high and outcomes matter. 💫 Culture is Built on Consistency From hiring practices to team accountability, Baptist South centers culture through "culture keepers" and shared rituals like open forums and leadership rounding. Everyone—regardless of role—contributes to the patient experience. ✔️ Relationships Before Results When onboarding new leaders, Kyle prioritizes relationships over performance in the first 90 days. Getting to know the team and building trust are foundational to long-term success. ➡️ Presence Over Perfection Kyle believes in being physically present—on nights, weekends, and across shifts. The result? People feel seen, heard, and valued. That presence builds emotional safety and deepens connection. 💌 Lead with Heart (and Handwritten Notes) During weekly rounds, Kyle and his team write personal notes to team members and mail them to their homes. This simple gesture creates a ripple effect of gratitude and meaning beyond the hospital walls. 📖 Favorite Quote “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead From building high-performing leadership teams to supporting individuals who fall "below center," Kyle's leadership centers on empathy, accountability, and service. His story is a masterclass in leading from within—with purpose, perspective, and the courage to care. ___________________ About Kyle Dorsey Kyle Dorsey is the President of Baptist Medical Center South, one of Florida’s top-ranked hospitals by U.S. News & World Report. A seasoned healthcare executive, Kyle leads with a deep commitment to compassionate care, operational excellence, and team culture. His leadership oversees key hospital services including Labor & Delivery, Emergency, Surgery, Imaging, and the pediatric Wolfson Children’s ER. With a strong background in physician relations and healthcare management, Kyle is known for fostering collaboration, trust, and high-impact leadership in every corner of the hospital. ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.revelcoach.com/team-workshops https://www.therevelcompanies.com/ https://www.therevelsearch.com/

Guest: Christine G. Johnson, CHRO, Baptist Health Care Theme: Compassionate Leadership, Centering Through Chaos, and Building a Culture of Care In this ABOVE CENTER® episode, Christine Johnson—Chief Human Resources Officer at Baptist Health Care—shares what it takes to lead with heart in one of the most high-stakes, high-stress industries: healthcare. With a team of 40 and influence across the entire hospital system, Christine has anchored her leadership in empathy, clarity, and presence. Her leadership philosophy is shaped by years of experience—and by the quiet power of watching her own mother lead with grace. For Christine, being Above Center® means showing up with intention, even when the day starts in chaos. From greeting her team with genuine energy to making space for difficult emotions, she models a form of leadership that is both kind and unshakably clear. Key Takeaways from Christine’s Leadership Mindset 🔑Culture Starts with the Baptist Way: Christine leads through a cultural framework that puts people first—patients and staff alike. She believes in meeting individuals where they are, especially in their most difficult moments. 🔑Living ABOVE CENTER® Is a Choice: Christine starts each day with intention—centering herself before she centers others. She reminds her team that no two days are the same and creates space for resetting and asking for support when needed. 🔑Transparency in Tough Decisions: When facing hard choices, Christine leads with empathy and clarity. She emphasizes the importance of explaining the “why,” speaking genuinely, and painting a hopeful path forward for her team. 🔑Reframing Negativity with Empathy: When team members are stuck or below center, Christine meets them with breathwork, one-on-one honesty, and reframing. She encourages naming the feeling, creating space for it, and then finding the energy to rise again. 🔑Deep Connections Drive Results: Christine uses intentional rounding, personal check-ins, and team-building days to foster a strong culture. Her secret? Remembering names, celebrating wins, and being present—without always leading with her title. Her Grounding Quote: “Live in the sunshine, swim in the sea, and drink in the wild air.” To Christine, it’s a reminder to embrace light, energy, and breath—even amidst chaos. She brings that same spirit into her leadership, helping her team find joy in the moment and clarity in the chaos. https://www.revelcoach.com/ https://www.therevelcompanies.com/

What does practical AI adoption look like inside hospitals? In this on-demand session hosted by Marcy Stoudt (CEO & Co-Founder, REVEL®), a CHRO and two clinician-informaticists dig into how to reduce burnout, redesign workflows, and hire for the AI era. We trace healthcare’s arc from Meaningful Use → data warehouses → today’s ambient documentation and “smart hospital” platforms, and why culture and cognitive fit (TEL: Trust, Emulation, Load, Learnability) now decide success. What you’ll learn → Why tech rollouts fail without early clinician buy-in and how to fix it → Where AI is working now and what’s next → Cognitive fit explained: designing AI to match thought flow, not just workflow → Hiring in the AI era: curiosity, adaptability, ownership › static skills → Upskilling the current workforce so everyone works at the top of their license → Guardrails, safety, and “fall in love with the problem” as a decision framework → Dream state: payer-provider alignment to end prior auth ping-pong Panelists → Christine Johnson: CHRO, Baptist Health Care (Pensacola): culture, workforce strategy, clinician engagement → Dr. Cassandra Parker: Physician to PM/AI leader: clinical lens on safe, human-centered AI; change management at the elbow → Dr. Mark Pierce: Physician & former CMIO About REVEL® The REVEL® companies purpose is simple: we care about helping people thrive at work. We support growing organizations from both ends of the talent spectrum. REVEL SEARCH helps you hire leaders who align with your culture and make an impact from day one. REVEL COACH offers coaching and development programs that strengthen teams and elevate leadership. Learn more at therevelcompanies.com. Like this conversation? Subscribe for leadership + culture content, and share with your people and teams. Chapters 0:00 The Evolution of Tech in Healthcare 05:14 Lessons from Early AI Rollouts 16:09 Preparing the Workforce for AI Adoption 35:58 Bringing Joy Back to Medicine 40:19 Rethinking Healthcare Systems with AI 46:05 Challenges Ahead and Future Opportunities

Guest: J.B. Kropp, CEO of Cintrifuse and Managing Partner, Cintrifuse Capital In this Above Center® Leadership Podcast conversation, venture fund leader and multi-startup entrepreneur J.B. Kropp shares what it takes to grow businesses—and people—from the ground up. As CEO of Cintrifuse and Managing Partner of Cintrifuse Capital in Cincinnati, J.B. works with early-stage startups, helping founders turn passion into performance through intentional leadership, smart team building, and authentic storytelling. J.B.’s approach is grounded in one core belief: great leaders know their superpower—and build teams that fill in the rest. From mentoring founders to managing his own team, he empowers others to lead with confidence by giving them space to learn, fail, and grow. Key Takeaways from J.B.’s Leadership Philosophy ➡️Empowerment Over Micromanagement: J.B. believes that the best leaders remove barriers and unlock their team’s potential. By stepping back and letting others lead in their zone of genius, he builds high-performing, collaborative teams. ➡️Founders Need Support, Not Perfection: Startups are intense and lonely. J.B. encourages coaching and mentorship as a vital support structure for early-stage founders, helping them stay grounded and aligned with their vision even during tough moments. ➡️Culture Starts at the Top (and Takes Time): From creating a culture club to running all-hands meetings that model core values, J.B. reinforces that culture isn’t a slogan—it’s a leadership practice. He leads by example and gives new hires time to learn, observe, and integrate authentically. ➡️Storytelling is a Superpower: Inspired by a favorite quote from Steve Jobs—“The most powerful person in the world is the storyteller”—J.B. teaches founders to craft authentic, emotionally grounded stories that build connection, drive investment, and move communities. ➡️Side Hustles Keep You Sharp: Whether it’s his pet supplement line or iced tea business, J.B. embraces side hustles as a way to stay curious, energized, and relatable to the founders he supports. He sees hands-on experimentation as key to ongoing growth. ➡️Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs: Start with one piece of paper. If you can write it clearly—what it is, why it matters, and who it’s for—you’re ready to share it. Then find your “smart dummies”—people who are smart enough to give real feedback and honest enough to tell you the truth. ________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://cintrifuse.com/ https://cintrifusecapital.com/ https://www.therevelcompanies.com/ https://www.revelcoach.com/ https://www.therevelsearch.com/