Guest: Larry Coval | Founder, Arcane Leadership Concepts & Author of the book "Misled" Theme: Leadership as a Skill, Accountability, and Helping People Succeed In this Above Center® episode, Larry Coval challenges the assumption that strong leaders are simply born with the right personality. Drawing on nearly four decades of experience, including 21 years at Cox Business, where he rose to Division Vice President, Larry argues that leadership is a practical, learnable skill built through observation, structure, accountability, and difficult decisions. His forthcoming book, "Misled: Why Almost Everything We Learned About Leadership Is Wrong and How to Fix It," questions advice that prioritizes likability and emotional language without giving managers the tools to lead effectively. Larry’s message is direct: empathy matters, but it cannot replace the ability to run a strong meeting, address underperformance, set expectations, and help people succeed. Key Takeaways from Larry’s Leadership Philosophy 🧭 Leadership Is a Skill, Not a Personality Trait Effective leadership can be learned. Being empathetic, vulnerable, or likable may help, but those qualities alone do not teach someone how to manage performance, build accountability, or guide a team through difficult situations. ⚖️ Evaluate Both Will and Skill When someone is struggling, leaders should assess two factors: Do they have the will to succeed, and do they have the skills required for the role? The answer helps determine whether someone needs coaching, clearer expectations, a different environment, or a different role. 🎯 A Leader’s Job Is to Enable Success Larry’s leadership standard is simple: his job is to make his people successful. Sometimes that means helping someone grow in the current role. Other times, it means recognizing that success may need to happen somewhere else. 📋 Define What a Good Day Looks Like Larry encourages leaders to define what a strong, average, and poor day look like in each role. Clear standards help employees understand expectations and give leaders an early warning system before small issues become major problems. 🤝 Trust Requires Support and Accountability Employees need to know their leader has their back, will show up, and will offer help. They must also know that the leader will hold them accountable. Strong leadership balances structure with freedom and support with responsibility. 🔁 Failure Is Part of the Process Larry developed his approach by trying new things, learning from mistakes, and refusing to let failure end the experiment. Positive intent, reflection, and a willingness to take risks helped him discover what worked. 💬 Favorite Quote “Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm.” For Larry, failure is not evidence that someone should stop trying. It is part of learning. Leaders grow by testing new approaches, acknowledging what did not work, and continuing to improve. __ About Larry Coval Lawrence “Larry” Coval did not study leadership from the outside. He lived it for nearly four decades. He started at the bottom, worked his way up, and spent years leading large organizations, managing significant revenue, and being accountable for hundreds of people. At 23, Larry was handed a leadership role he knew he was not ready for. That experience shaped everything that followed. Rather than relying on theory, he learned through real outcomes, pressure, and consequences. Over time, Larry developed a simple but demanding standard: his job was to make his people successful. If they won, he won. Today, as founder of Arcane Leadership Concepts and author of the forthcoming *Misled: Why Almost Everything We Learned About Leadership Is Wrong and How to Fix It*, Larry brings an operator’s mindset to leadership development. His work replaces conventional advice with practical skills, clear accountability, and approaches designed for the real world. --- ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. This podcast features corporate leaders who share how they navigate pressure while living ABOVE CENTER®. We explore the mindsets, strategies, and philosophies that help high-performing executives lead themselves and their teams. From hiring and retaining talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations are about building a career and life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey.

Guest: Robin Green | Author of The Intelligence Loop In this Above Center® episode, Robin Green explores one of the most important leadership questions of our time: as AI gets smarter, what becomes more important about being human? As the author of The Intelligence Loop: A New Model for Growth and How We Get Smarter Together, Robin brings decades of experience helping organizations navigate technology, data, AI, and growth. His message is clear: the future will not belong to the people with the best tools alone. It will belong to the people who know how to keep humans at the center while using technology to expand learning, insight, and impact. Robin challenges leaders to slow down before they speed up. AI can make work faster, but speed without purpose can simply make us more efficient at wandering. True leadership requires judgment, curiosity, humility, and the courage to ask not just “Can we?” but “Should we?” Key Takeaways from Robin’s Leadership Philosophy 🧠 Keep Humans at the Center Robin believes both AI cheerleaders and AI doomers make the same mistake: they put the machine at the center. Real progress happens when human dignity, judgment, and meaning stay at the core. 🔁 Intelligence Is a Loop, Not a Line The Intelligence Loop is about learning, applying, reflecting, refining, and then learning again. AI can support that process, but humans must bring the insight, purpose, and judgment that make the work meaningful. ❓ Ask “Should We?” Before “Can We?” Robin warns that many organizations rush straight to the how and can of AI adoption. The better leadership question is why. Without purpose, efficiency can create more confusion, not better outcomes. ⚖️ Judgment Cannot Be Automated AI can process, summarize, and accelerate—but it cannot fully replace human judgment. Leaders must bring context, ethics, empathy, and responsibility into every decision. 🤝 Curiosity + Humility Wins The half-life of expertise is shrinking. Robin believes the strongest leaders are not the ones who claim to know everything, but the ones who say, “I don’t know, but I’ll go find out.” 📊 Data Matters, But Insight Matters More Robin learned early in his career to know the numbers cold. But numbers alone are not enough. Leaders must be able to interpret what the data means, what it implies, and what action it calls for. 💬 Favorite Quote “Everything civilization has to offer is a product of human intelligence.” — Stephen Hawking For Robin, this quote is a reminder that technology should enhance—not replace—the human experience. Progress without purpose is just a faster form of wandering. Human intelligence gives motion direction. About Robin Green Robin Green builds and scales revenue engines at the intersection of data, AI/technology, strategic partnerships, and leadership—delivering outsized results from startups to global enterprises. His passion is helping organizations close the gap between what they have and what they’re capable of. Across his career, Robin has helped businesses navigate major shifts in how commercial value is created—from the rise of enterprise software to the analytics revolution to the AI-enabled future of customer intelligence. At Publicis/Epsilon, he applied that discipline at scale, serving Fortune 500 clients across financial services, retail, CPG, travel, and healthcare. At FICO, he helped leading firms turn analytical insight into commercial action. At Oracle, as Head of Global Services & Alliances, he built an integrated partner ecosystem that helped double global services revenue from $820M to $1.6B in 24 months. Robin has led global organizations of 100+ professionals, managed enterprise relationships with the world’s leading systems integrators, and operated across 80+ U.S. markets. Across all of it, his belief remains consistent: growth doesn’t come from having the best data or the biggest team. It comes from building organizations that know what to do with what they have—and executing with discipline, integrity, and human judgment. ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey.

“Some leaders feel if I’m really good at pushing you at 1% better…you gotta be better, think better, elevate yourself, and you’re always coaching them at the gap of who they are about to be, some people thrive on that. Well then, to the next person, it sounds like ‘you’re not enough.’” - Marcy Stoudt Pause for 10-15 seconds, before giving feedback or direction, try asking: How might this land for them? Simply asking the question creates a shift from expressing your perspective to considering theirs. therevelcompanies.com

Instead of evaluating a conversation based on what was said or accomplished, try this more useful lens. How did that person feel after interacting with me? Encouraged? Clear? Pressured? Overlooked? “How do I want other people to experience my leadership?” - Marcy Stoudt therevelcompanies.com

Think you’re late to the AI conversation? Georgia Groc says you’re not. The ship hasn’t sailed yet. The opportunity is still wide open for anyone willing to start learning. If you’re ready to dive in but don’t know where to begin, listen to the full episode wherever you get podcasts. Or check out our Career Strategist to build a custom AI GPT tailored to your goals: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/leaders-in-transition-revel-career-strategist Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

"The second you try to be somebody else, your leadership weakens." - Marcy Stoudt Pause for 10-15 seconds before an interaction or decision and ask: Who do I want to be in this moment? Not just...What should I say? What should I do? But...How do I want to show up? Clear? Supportive? Direct? Patient? Answering this question can change the tone of an entire interaction. therevelcompanies.com

Guest: Georgia Groc | AI Automation & Process Transformation Leader, U.S. Bank In this Above Center® episode, Georgia Groc shares a grounded, real-world view of what leadership looks like when the pace of change is relentless and the stakes feel personal. As an AI Automation and Process Transformation leader at U.S. Bank, Georgia makes the case that leaders don’t need to be experts overnight, but they do need to get in the arena. Her advice is simple and powerful: block time to learn, start experimenting, and let AI handle the “nonsense work” so people can double down on what makes them uniquely valuable. But the conversation goes deeper than technology. Georgia connects the fear many professionals feel about AI to a fear she knows intimately: a stage 3 breast cancer diagnosis at 36. What helped her move forward wasn’t pretending the fear wasn’t there. It was getting informed, building clarity, and choosing a mindset that refused to let a hard season become her identity. The result is a leadership posture that is both resilient and human: acknowledge what’s real, learn what we can, and keep choosing the path that aligns with our best self. Key Takeaways from Georgia’s Leadership Philosophy 🧠 Don’t Wait to “Be Ready” for AI Georgia believes the biggest risk is not starting. Leaders don’t need massive budgets or advanced expertise; they need intentional practice. An hour a week of learning and tinkering builds fluency, confidence, and momentum. 🧩 AI Raises the Bar on Human Value As AI accelerates execution, Georgia encourages teams to focus on what can’t be automated: judgment, vision, relationship-building, creative problem solving, and leadership presence. Let AI do the repetitive work so people can lead at a higher level. 🤝 Psychological Safety Is the New Adoption Strategy AI adoption isn’t just a tool rollout—it’s a culture shift. Georgia emphasizes creating a team environment where people can voice skepticism, fears, and frustrations without shame. Real progress happens when leaders “double-click” on what’s underneath the resistance. 🧭 Knowledge Reduces Fear From navigating AI uncertainty to navigating cancer, Georgia returns to one theme: information is empowering. When people understand what they’re facing, fear quiets down enough for clear action to emerge. 🔥 Choose Your Life—Daily Georgia’s resilience is rooted in choice. When life feels fragile, clarity sharpens. Her approach is to go all-in on what matters: family, impact, career, and presence. Choosing above center is not denial of hardship; it’s ownership of response. 💬 Favorite Quote “What a day, what a life!” For Georgia, this quote is a reset. The day might be hard, messy, or exhausting, but the larger story is still worth celebrating. It’s a reminder to hold both truths at once: reality can be heavy—and life can still be beautiful. About Georgia Groc Georgia Groc is an AI Automation and Process Transformation leader who turns complex problems into scalable solutions. Over the past decade, she has helped highly regulated financial organizations reimagine how work gets done—delivering millions in cost savings and revenue, accelerating operational efficiency, and empowering teams to do their best work. Today, Georgia leads an AI Automation Solutions Team at U.S. Bank, managing a team of eight and overseeing high-visibility AI and automation use cases across Operations for Consumer, Business and Treasury, Wealth Management, Contact Center, and Transaction Processing & Shared Services. She was promoted into this role for her ability to learn new business areas quickly, build frameworks that increase efficiency, and activate cross-functional teams around a compelling vision. Her leadership style is rooted in transparency, accountability, and building strong team culture. ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey.

We’re often the biggest obstacle in our own way. When doubt shows up, it’s worth pausing and asking whether the story you’re telling yourself is actually true. A powerful reminder from Marcy on why mindset matters more than we think. Catch Marcy on the Past the Pitch Podcast with @Anna Frazzetto: 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NHVFEEV6cwmhs0tmxcuca?si=739438331b5249a5 ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LW8YuA-O4

Growth doesn’t start with fixing the problem. It starts with asking better questions. Curiosity creates understanding. Without it, we risk repeating the same patterns over and over. Catch Marcy on the Past the Pitch Podcast with @Anna Frazzetto: 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NHVFEEV6cwmhs0tmxcuca?si=739438331b5249a5 ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LW8YuA-O4

Busy doesn’t always mean productive. When teams operate from urgency and pressure, decision-making suffers. Leading from inspiration creates better outcomes for people and the business. Catch Marcy on the Past the Pitch Podcast with @Anna Frazzetto: 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6NHVFEEV6cwmhs0tmxcuca?si=739438331b5249a5 ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16LW8YuA-O4

Reminder of the day!!! Leadership gets lighter when you stop trying to be everything to everyone. Learn what happens when you’re clear on who you are and lead from that place (hint: interactions become far less draining, among other positive side-effects!!). Catch Marcy’s leadership conversation with Jeremy Greene on Birds of a Feather: ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqRKnmdxO4

The way we show up with the people around us often matters more than the agenda, the meeting, or the outcome. Strong relationships turn “everyday work” into something that actually feels worthwhile. Catch Marcy on Birds of a Feather with Jeremy Greene: ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqRKnmdxO4

We often assume stress comes from our roles, responsibilities, or circumstances. But many times, it’s the stories we carry into those moments that create the pressure. Change the narrative, and you can change the experience. Huge thank you to John Kaplan and the Revenue Builders Podcast for making this conversation happen. Catch Marcy on Birds of a Feather with Jeremy Greene: ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqRKnmdxO4

Ever walked out of a meeting thinking, “What just happened?” Kirsten Moorefield shares how Cloverleaf helped her decode a tense moment with her head of sales, and how fast everything shifted once she understood his stress style. 👉 Try Cloverleaf free on us: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/cloverleaf Check out the full podcast wherever you listen! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

We’re living in a moment of tension: economic pressure, workforce fear, and an expectation to adapt faster than ever. In this Above Center® conversation, Kirsten Moorefield makes something clear: AI isn’t here to cut people. It’s here to expand what people are capable of. More clarity. More speed. More trust. That’s the vision behind Cloverleaf and the same belief fueling our AI Career Strategist work. If you know a senior leader looking for their next big opportunity, we’ve built a program just for them. Check out our new Career Strategist program: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/leaders-in-transition-revel-career-strategist This is a modern, AI-accelerated program that helps leaders gain real AI fluency and create a personal GPT so you’re not just reacting to change, but actively inventing what comes next. We’d love your referrals.

Kirsten Moorefield’s episode just went live, and this clip captures the heart of it: Stress twists the story. Cloverleaf brings leaders back to clarity. Remember, if you want to try Cloverleaf (and we think you will after giving this episode a listen!!), you can try it on us: https://www.therevelcompanies.com/cloverleaf Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Guest: Kirsten Moorefield | Co-Founder & Chief Strategy Officer, Cloverleaf In this ABOVE CENTER® episode, Kirsten Moorefield shares how she went from a first-time manager drowning in self-doubt to co-creating one of the most powerful psychology-based coaching tools in the workplace: Cloverleaf. With deep empathy and bold vision, Kirsten takes us inside the messy, human reality of leading in high-growth environments—and how AI can become an unlikely but powerful ally in fostering emotional intelligence, trust, and performance. Kirsten’s story is a testament to what happens when you stop labeling people and start seeing them. She believes thriving teams don’t just need better tools—they need better understanding. Key Takeaways from Kirsten’s Leadership Philosophy 🧭 Stress Is a Signal, Not a Setback For Kirsten, stress isn’t failure—it’s information. When tension arises, it’s often a cue to pause, reflect, and recalibrate—not power through. 🧠 AI Can Deepen Human Connection While others feared AI, Kirsten saw its potential to support—not replace—people. Cloverleaf uses psychology and automation to give teams real-time coaching tips that foster awareness and reduce friction. 💬 Communication Needs Context Her breakthrough? Conflict often isn’t about competence—it’s about clashing styles. Tools like Cloverleaf help leaders understand not just what happened, but why someone reacted a certain way—and how to respond with clarity and care. 🔁 Rupture and Repair Builds Trust Kirsten’s guiding quote—“All trust is built through rupture and repair”—reminds us that tension isn’t the enemy of strong teams. Avoiding conflict kills momentum; facing it with empathy fuels growth. 📊 Data-Driven, Human-Centered Cloverleaf analyzes over 214 personality traits across multiple assessments, making it nearly impossible to box someone in. The result? Less labeling, more listening—and better performance across diverse teams. 🤝 Above Center Starts With You Whether she’s noticing a pattern of defensiveness or guiding a stressed-out team through a product launch, Kirsten uses Cloverleaf herself. The goal? To lead by example—embracing self-awareness as a daily practice, not just a leadership buzzword. 💬 Favorite Quote “All trust is built through rupture and repair.” This psychology insight grounds Kirsten’s approach to leadership. Conflict isn’t a sign of failure—it’s an invitation to build something stronger. Real trust isn’t built through comfort. It’s built through courage. About Kirsten Moorefield: Kirsten Moorefield is the Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer at Cloverleaf, a technology company pioneering Automated Coaching™ to help teams thrive. Launched in 2018, Cloverleaf now delivers over 5 million coaching insights per month to more than 45,000 teams. With a background in leadership, psychology, and people-first innovation, Kirsten leads with both vision and vulnerability—empowering organizations to turn human differences into team strengths. Her mission? To make self-awareness, empathy, and high performance a normal part of every workday. ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.therevelcompanies.com/above-center https://cloverleaf.me/

Of course you have New Year’s resolutions…we all do. But as neuroscientist Jamey Maniscalco reminds us, trying to become a “new person” overnight is the fastest way to burn out and slip even further from where you want to be. If you missed his episode on the ABOVE CENTER® Leadership Podcast, now’s the perfect time to tune in and learn how to make your New Year goals actually stick (backed by science!!). Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Guest: Warner Siebert | Entrepreneur, Sales Leader, Advisor In this Above Center® conversation, Warner Siebert brings hard-earned wisdom from the trenches of entrepreneurship, tech startups, and high-performance sales teams. With a career spanning food & beverage, wellness, and SaaS, Warner shares his story with humor, honesty, and a deep belief in the power of simplicity. From building venture-backed companies to leading national sales teams, Warner’s approach is grounded in clarity: know your must-haves, scale through delegation, and never underestimate the power of picking up the phone. This episode is packed with practical advice for anyone looking to lead with purpose—and stay above center when the pressure’s on. ________________________________________ Key Takeaways from Warner’s Approach to Leadership & Growth 📈 Sales Is a Crash Course in Confidence Warner began his career with a phonebook and a commission-only job at a rock radio station. That first sales meeting? He froze and walked out. But those early no’s built his grit—and shaped how he leads others through fear and failure today. 📚 Leadership Is Clarity + Empowerment Great leaders set a clear direction, communicate expectations, and then get out of the way. Warner learned that scaling isn’t about doing more—it’s about hiring great people, delegating well, and aligning on what success looks like. 💬 Storytelling Builds Trust As a mentor and team leader, Warner uses storytelling to show he’s been there too. From botched pitches to tough transitions, his stories aren’t just lessons—they’re bridges of empathy that help others grow without fear. 📊 Data + Gut = Smart Decisions Whether hiring, launching, or investing, Warner blends analytics with instinct. He believes in stress-testing hires with small projects and looking beyond résumés to see how people think, communicate, and recover from setbacks. 📞 Pick Up the Phone In a world of automation and inbox overload, Warner reminds us that connection builds momentum. Sometimes, the next deal, breakthrough, or relationship is just one phone call away. 🧭 Fear Is Paper-Thin Warner’s philosophy on fear? It only feels like a brick wall. Push through, ask for help, try again. Whether mentoring young founders or guiding his kids through Lego frustrations, Warner shows that resilience is a muscle we all can build. 💬 Favorite Quote “Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.” – Zhu Xi This quote from a Chinese philosopher—discovered during Warner’s senior thesis—guides how he leads, lives, and prioritizes. It’s his weekly gut check: Is this a must-have or a nice-to-have? About Warner Siebert Warner Siebert is a seasoned entrepreneur, advisor, and sales executive known for his ability to scale revenue, simplify systems, and build high-performing teams. He’s the former Co-Founder & CEO of Good Day (CBD wellness), former SVP at Sysco LABS, and founder of multiple startups, including BuzzTable (acquired by Sysco). Warner brings a unique blend of creative hustle, operational rigor, and human-centered leadership to every venture. He’s currently Chief Revenue Officer at ColdTrack, a direct-to-consumer perishable logistics company. When he’s not building businesses, Warner’s playing club lacrosse, cycling, or parenting twin boys. His personal mantra? Try again—or ask for help. ________________________________________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.therevelcompanies.com/above-center https://www.revelcoach.com/ https://www.therevelcompanies.com/

45,000 teams later, the truth is clear: #AI is becoming one of the most powerful tools for human connection. Hear how on the Above Center® Leadership podcast with @Kirsten Moorefield. 🎙️ Episode drops the first Wednesday in January. Stay tuned and catch other great guests in the meantime: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Pushing through fear is powerful. Asking for help while you do it? Even more so. This clip from our new episode with Warner Siebert is your reminder that courage and support go hand in hand. Listen/watch wherever you get your podcasts. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

In this week’s episode, entrepreneur and sales leader Warner Siebert shares the best advice he ever got from a business book: Spend one year in sales. Any kind of sales. It will change every part of your career. His take? Sales forces you to face fear, build confidence, and learn how to connect. All skills every great leader needs. 🎙️ Episode drops Wednesday. Stay tuned. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

Guest: Jamey Maniscalco, PhD | Neuroscientist, Coach, Founder of Manifest Wellness In this Above Center® episode, Jamey Maniscalco brings clarity, compassion, and brain science to the conversation around wellness and personal growth. As a neuroscientist, former professor, and cancer survivor, Jamey’s perspective is grounded in research and lived experience. His approach? Wellness isn’t the goal—it’s the tool to help you live a purpose-driven, energized life. From navigating personal health crises to launching a business that makes wellness accessible, Jamey offers a fresh take on how high performers can thrive—without burning out. He blends practicality with neuroscience, showing us that you don’t need a total life overhaul to see real change. Key Takeaways from Jamey’s Approach to Living Above Center® 🧠 Start With the Brain Jamey believes peak performance and emotional resilience begin in the brain. Sleep, food, movement, and mindfulness aren’t just “nice-to-haves”—they’re essential for cognitive clarity, emotional regulation, and decision-making. 💡 Your Why Drives Your Wellness Forget external motivators. Whether your goal is to be a present parent or a high-impact leader, Jamey encourages clients to anchor behavior change in intrinsic purpose. When wellness supports what truly matters to you, it becomes sustainable. ⏳ The Knowing-Doing Gap Is Real We know what to do—eat better, sleep more, move daily—but the hard part is doing it. Jamey helps close that gap by making change bite-sized, frictionless, and science-backed. 📈 The Difference Between 0 and 1 Is Huge If you can’t get in a 60-minute workout, do air squats between meetings. Can’t meditate for 10 minutes? Try two. Jamey reminds us that doing something—however small—is far better than doing nothing. 🌊 You’re Swimming Upstream In a fast, overstimulated world, intentional living requires effort. Jamey describes wellness as a daily rebellion against distractions, urgency, and burnout. Success, he says, is about choosing direction over default. 🧘 Practice in Peace, Use in Chaos His coaching and mindfulness cards promote “practice before pressure.” Whether it’s naming emotions (“Name it to Tame it”) or calming your nervous system with a physiological sigh, the goal is to build resilience before you need it. 💬 Favorite Quote: “The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson For Jamey, this quote fuels bold decisions—including his leap from tenured academia to entrepreneurship. It’s a reminder that growth is intentional, not accidental. About Jamey Maniscalco Dr. Jamey Maniscalco is the founder of Manifest Wellness, a neuroscience-informed coaching and wellness company. With a PhD in Neuroscience, experience in academia and consulting, and a deeply personal health journey, he empowers individuals and organizations to unlock clarity, energy, and resilience. His latest innovation: a brain-boosting coffee enhancer paired with 2-minute mindfulness cards—making wellness more accessible, one sip at a time. Jamey’s mission is simple: help people do less, better, and build the life they truly want. _________________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://www.therevelcompanies.com/above-center https://manifestwellness.co/

One key takeaway from our conversation with neuroscientist Jamey Maniscalco? Your brain is everything 🧠. From the downsides of over-caffeinating and under-sleeping to the small, science-backed shifts that help you show up better in every area of your life, this episode is packed with practical change you can actually use. Episode drops Wednesday! You’re not going to want to miss this one. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/above-center-leadership-podcast/id1557113848 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelcompanies

The holidays are full of hustle at work and at home. Former Navy SEAL Commander Jon Macaskill shares on the ABOVE CENTER® podcast why it’s not always about pushing harder…and his #1 tip for managing stress when life gets chaotic. Check out the episode: Youtube: https://youtu.be/X5y1EUhycv0 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/from-seal-grit-to-mindful-leadership-with-jon-macaskill/id1557113848?i=1000736381354 Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/7IyqYMKU9r7tPHZLkEi51F/episode/34QdTcViLiN5bMqD4M1ASF/wizard

A conversation on grind culture, growth, and getting grounded with Retired Navy SEAL Commander, Mindfulness Teacher, and Leadership Coach Jon Macaskill. In this Above Center® conversation, retired Navy SEAL Commander Jon Macaskill brings a powerful blend of grit and grace to the conversation on leadership. Drawing from his experience in elite military service and now as a leadership coach and mindfulness teacher, Jon shares practical tools for navigating pressure with clarity, composure, and compassion. From combat missions to boardrooms, Jon teaches that true leadership starts within. Grounded in faith and forged through adversity, his approach combines mental toughness with emotional intelligence—helping others manage stress, lead with integrity, and stay connected to their why. Key Takeaways from Jon’s Leadership Philosophy 1. Mental Toughness Starts Early Jon credits his high school track coach for instilling grit and resilience long before SEAL training. That foundation—built on discipline, consistency, and accountability—shaped how he approached stress and setbacks throughout his life. 2. Know Your Why (Big and Small) Staying “above center” requires a clear purpose. Jon believes leaders need both a broader mission and day-to-day motivation. Whether pushing through cold water in SEAL training or leading a team through chaos, it’s your “why” that keeps you focused. 3. Sleep Is the First Strategy Jon doesn’t believe in reducing stress—he believes in managing it. And it starts with sleep. As a father of three and former SEAL, he’s seen firsthand how rest impacts patience, clarity, and emotional regulation. Rest isn’t weakness—it’s readiness. 4. Busy ≠ Productive Grind culture isn’t a badge of honor. Jon challenges leaders to unplug, slow down, and prioritize presence over productivity. He introduces tools like “to-don’t lists” and 20-minute focus blocks to retrain the brain toward mindfulness. 5. Presence Is More Powerful Than Perfection Whether on the battlefield, in a classroom, or at the dinner table—Jon believes leadership is about showing up fully. You don’t need perfect conditions. You need presence, resourcefulness, and the courage to start. 6. Start Small With Mindfulness Jon teaches that meditation doesn’t require silence, incense, or long hours. Start with two minutes. Sit still. Be with your thoughts. Consistency, not complexity, builds clarity. 7. Lead with Awareness and Action From pulling teeth in Nepal to managing morning chaos with his kids, Jon shows that leadership isn’t about titles—it’s about how you show up in the hard moments. His mindset? Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Favorite Quote “Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.” – Theodore Roosevelt This quote grounds Jon through life’s transitions—combat, career change, even divorce—and reminds him that leadership is about movement, not perfection. ____________________ Jon Macaskill is a retired Navy SEAL Commander turned mindfulness teacher, leadership coach, and resilience practitioner. He blends elite military experience with deep emotional intelligence to help leaders manage stress, sharpen clarity, and lead with heart. Through keynotes, workshops, and 1:1 coaching, Jon works with top-performing teams at companies like Amazon, Microsoft, and PepsiCo. He’s also the co-host of Men Talking Mindfulness, a podcast on showing up fully—especially when it’s hard. His mission? To help leaders integrate grit and compassion in service of something greater. ___________________ ABOVE CENTER® is brought to you by REVEL®, an Executive Search and Coaching firm that helps people and companies grow through the power of great leadership. Our ABOVE CENTER® approach is about staying grounded, clear, and resilient, especially when the stakes are high. In this podcast, we feature leaders in corporate America who share how they navigate the pressures of leadership while living ABOVE CENTER®. We uncover the mindsets, strategies, and personal philosophies that drive high-performing executives to lead themselves and their teams to success. From hiring and retaining top talent to thriving in the first 90 days of a new role, these conversations go beyond leadership—they’re about building a career and a life with purpose, impact, and joy in the journey. https://jonmacaskill.com/ https://www.therevelcompanies.com/ http://revelcoach.com/ Theme: Mental Toughness, Presence, and Purpose-Driven Leadership